1 CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG . COMMUNITY PLANNING & preservation commission . public HEARING. Council Chambers october 13, 2015 . City Hall Tuesday, 3:00 Approved as written 11/10/15. MINUTES. Present: Robert Bob Carter, Chair Jeffery Jeff M. Wolf, Vice Chair Christopher Chris A. Burke Will Michaels Lisa Wannemacher Jeff Rogo, Alternate Thomas Tom Whiteman, Alternate Commissioners Absent: Gwendolyn Gwen Reese1 1. excused Arnett Smith, Jr., Alternate1. Staff Present: Dave Goodwin, Director, PLANNING & Economic Development Derek Kilborn, Manager, Urban PLANNING & Historic preservation Tom Whalen, Planer III, Parking & Transportation Management Michael Dema, Assistant City Attorney Vicky Davidson, Administrative Assistant, PLANNING & Economic Development The public hearing was called to order at 3:03 , a quorum was present.
2 I. OPENING REMARKS OF CHAIR AND SWEARING IN OF WITNESSES. II. ROLL CALL. III. MINUTES. The minutes from the october 13, 2015 meeting were approved as written by a consensus vote. IV. public COMMENTS. No public comments made. V. INFORMATIONAL ITEM. PSTA February 2016 Bus Route Redesign Update Contact Person: Tom Whalen, 893-7883. APPROVED AS WRITTEN 11/10/15. COMMUNITY PLANNING & preservation commission MINUTES october 13, 2015 . Tom Whalen began with a PowerPoint presentation of the PSTA February 2016 Bus Route Redesign initiating the grid system in Downtown St. PETERSBURG and then introduced Cassandra Borchers, the PSTA Chief Development Officer, who then concluded the presentation. Commissioner Rogo asked if the new grid system would require the same sized buses that are in use today.
3 Ms. Borchers stated that they will be using their current fleet but are looking into applying for a low or no emission bus (probably same size of 35-40 feet) as well as possibly using smaller buses downtown. However, many of the buses coming into downtown are doing more things within the county-wide system for which they need the capacity. Commissioner Michaels asked if they are no longer looking at any new major capital facility in the downtown area. Ms. Borchers replied that was correct; they will not have a major capital investment in a building in downtown. VI. QUASI-JUDICIAL public HEARINGS. City File HPC 15-90300002 Contact Person: Kim Hinder, 892-5451. Request: Local designation of the Acheson-Mackey House located at 3900 Dr.
4 Martin Luther King Jr. Street North. Staff Presentation Derek Kilborn gave a PowerPoint presentation based on the staff report. Applicant Presentation Peter Belmont representing the Allendale Crime Watch Association, Inc. began the presentation in support of the request with Howard Hansen and Jim Stitt concluding. Owner Presentation Nicholas Ekonomou, owner, gave a presentation in opposition of the request. A letter outlining his opposition was provided to the Commissioners. He is asking to be able to complete his roof with flat tiles as opposed to the current barrel tiles, and that the application be amended to designate just the house and the land it sits on;. not the entire parcel. public Hearing The following people spoke in support of the request: Kenton D.
5 Wilson, 1045 39th Avenue North Nina Light, 940 42nd Avenue North Sue Fishalow, 4041 11th Street North Fonda McGuire, 1201 45th Avenue North Martin Banspach, 4140 14th Street North Bill Osburn, 1005 41st Avenue North Conrad Banspach, 4140 14th Street North Page 2 of 9. APPROVED AS WRITTEN 11/10/15. COMMUNITY PLANNING & preservation commission MINUTES october 13, 2015 . Brian Smith, 935 41st Avenue North Thomas J. Nestor, 500 45th Avenue NE (wanted his vote for the record did not speak). Cross Examination By Owner: Mr. Ekonomou asked if any of the people who live in a Cade Allen home and had given testimony are willing to submit an application for local designation as well and in return he will welcome the historic designation. Mr. Belmont stated that he did not think the question is relevant.
6 The applicants and neighborhood residents are happy to meet with the property owner after this meeting to discuss a neighborhood application as well as other matters. Mr. Dema stated his appreciation of Mr. Belmont speaking but he did not know if it was appropriate, particularly that the question was not asked of any single person who presented testimony. Mr. Ekonomou then asked the third party applicants here today living in an historic home in Allendale if they are willing to apply or join this application to prove that they are really about preserving. commission Chair Carter stated that he understands the question but the focus needs to be on the owner's home only. Mr. Ekonomou stated that more protection is needed with third party applications (reasoning behind the application).
7 Mr. Dema stated that this is more of a closing statement and they have to keep to the questions. By: Applicant: Waived. By City Administration: Waived. Rebuttal By City Administration: Waived. Mr. Kilborn stated that one of the applicants voiced concern that the property owner had approached him twice during the comment portion and for the record Mr. Kilborn wanted to make it clear that the property owner asked two procedural questions: (1) whether or not they get a rebuttal in closing; and (2) how a person who is on-route can submit a comment card. By Applicant: Mr. Belmont urged the commission to approve the application as submitted and maybe between now and the City Council meeting the various parties can discuss the extent of the designation further (house vs.)
8 Entire Page 3 of 9. APPROVED AS WRITTEN 11/10/15. COMMUNITY PLANNING & preservation commission MINUTES october 13, 2015 . parcel) to see if a consensus can be reached. Context to a property is very important and applications essentially and typically deal with the parcel, not just the property under the structure. When this application was met, this was a large parcel; it was a single parcel for the purposes of tax records with historical platted lots, which some may or may not be buildable lots. Designation does not bar any particular type of renovation, reuse or new construction; just ensures that the character remains. He suggested that it is not appropriate for the commission to debate what type of roof should be placed as a condition of approval; that would fall under a COA.
9 Application if City Council approves the designation. Mr. Belmont went on to say that he hopes the neighborhood will come back with a neighborhood application. In summary, the evidence overwhelmingly supports the designation as presented By: Owner Mr. Ekonomou stated his agreement that his house is historic but does not want to encumber the entire parcel consisting of six platted lots. The home sits on the far side leaving the other side vacant and would like to have the option to build a guest house in the future, and feels that it is very unfair that the neighbors are putting restrictions on him. He stated again that he feels it is unfair to include the entire parcel; the structure itself is historic, not the land. The applicants have proven with the proposed rezoning of the neighborhood currently being considered that they have a personal agenda with the proposed designation of the entire parcel and not just the structure; they do not care about the historic but want to control future potential development.
10 This process has taken so much time and effort that he would not have bought the house if he had known this was going to happen. Mr. Ekonomou went on to say that the commission should look at this process and have some protection for homeowners that have these third party applications against them. Dr. David McKalip concluded the presentation by voicing his opposition to the application. It sets a terrible precedent for the entire neighborhood, it is hypocritical that the neighbors themselves will not designate their own homes historic and their motivations have nothing to do with the homes but with their own political agenda. They created a closed process that does not allow the other neighbors to participate in how the neighborhood is represented; they refused to allow him to participate in their committee meetings, refused to invite people who oppose this to their committee meetings.