12 Appendix B Interview Transcripts - Art Lab

1 Appendix B: Interview Transcripts Appendix : Cantell School (M=Michelle, aged 13, female; I=interviewer). (//=overlap). I: Let's begin with how I see myself'. Can you just go through the pictures that you've used and explain what pictures you've used and why you've used them? M: Yeah. I've used this woman [Kelly Rowland] because she's quite fashionable and I. see myself as a fashionable person. I've used a picture of a Liverpool football team because I see myself as quite a supportive person towards the team. I put a love heart because I'm quite a loving person. I also put a laptop because I like to explore things and try new things. I: What about the pictures of Kat, Alfie [EastEnders characters] and, is that Lemar? M: Bow Wow. I: Let's start with Kat and Alfie, why have you used them? M: Because Kat, erm Alfie's quite cheery and he makes people smile sometimes so I just like Alfie, and I also have a temper to so I put Kat.

2 I: And what about Bow Wow? M: I put him because I like him (laughs). I: So if you were going to sum up how you see yourself, what words would you use that the pictures are trying to express? M: Creative, fashionable, quite a happy person, quite tempered sometimes, powerful, respectful. I: OK, you said that you can have a temper//. M: //yeah//. I: //sometimes//. M: //yeah. I: When you say get a temper do you mean you get angry? M: Yeah. I: What types of things make you angry? M: My sister borrows stuff from me and, um, sometimes I don't get things my own way. I: Sometimes you don't get things your own way. M: Yeah. I: Can you give me an example? M: Like if I was quite tired and just don't want anybody staying and something like that, and I can't go out late. I: OK. M: Yep. I: Now on this side [how I think other people see me] you've used a picture of Cat Deeley, a horse and the New Look logo and a phone.

3 What are you trying to express on this side? M: I think other people see me as a trendy and fashionable person so they know that I. like to go and buy clothes and things like that. I: So, you've got fashion on both sides//. M: //yeah//. I: //do you think though that there's a difference between how you see yourself and how you think other people see you? M: There's a few differences I think and there's a few same, 'cause like some people know I'm fashionable and some people don't but I think some people see me as quite a trendy person and like, I like different things. Fatimah Awan 2008. This text is part of the full PhD thesis 288. available at I: How do you think other people see you differently to how you see yourself? You said that there are some differences, so apart from the fashion, what else? M: Some people think I'm quite a calm person but I can actually have quite a temper.

4 I: So they think you are quite calm? M: Yeah but I didn't actually find a picture for that yet. And like the horse actually, um resembles me because I'm a kind person by whole. I: OK, so it's really the temper//. M: //yeah. I: So if you were going to use a picture to represent temper, what would you use? M: I would put either put a cat, I think also I'd put, um, maybe like some [inaudible]. I: And if you had more time, are there any other pictures that you would have put onto your collage? M: I would have put more on how I see myself and go into more details like my feelings and that I can be quite an emotional person and friendly. I: And what would you use to represent emotional and friendly? M: Maybe two characters in quite a emotional scene or something. I: Is there anyone that you think of in particular when you think of emotional?

5 M: Maybe Kat and Zoe [EastEnders characters] or somebody like that. I: So, because of Kat and Zoe's relationship? M: Yeah. I: And just finally, how would you usually describe your ethnicity? M: Like I come from like all different backgrounds, different like, different types of families. I: But if I asked you what your ethnicity is, how would you describe yourself? M: English. I: You say English. M: Yeah. I: Do you ever say British? M: No. I: Do you know//. M: //I don't know why. I: So you just say English, you don't know why. M: Yeah. I just say English. I: OK, that's brilliant. (S=Sapan, aged=13, male; I=interviewer). (//=overlap). I: You've just done one collage yes [how I see myself]? S: Yeah. I: Can you just go through the images and words you've used and explain what you are trying to express with them? S: I've got a picture of this game [image of a computer game] because I really like playing games a lot, and I'm a Hindu that's why I put a symbol.

6 I: What is this a symbol of? S: Hindu. I: This says Hindu? S: No it's Ohm. I: Ohm. S: Yeah. I: So you've got the word Hindu' and you've got the Ohm symbol, and you've also got//. S: //the flag//. I: //the Indian flag. S: Yeah. I: What about Darth Vader [Star Wars character]? Fatimah Awan 2008. This text is part of the full PhD thesis 289. available at S: I just like films a lot. I: Why did you choose Darth Vader? S: 'Cause that's kind of like the films which I like, action films. I: Action. S: Yeah. I: And who are these two people [image of Indian actors]? S: They're just like Indian actors. I: And why have you used them there? S: 'Cause I like often look at, watch Hindi films. I: Hindi films. S: Yeah. I: Are these famous Hindi actors? S: Yeah, they're kind of like top. I: What about this cricket bat? S: I quite like sports and cricket.

7 I: So you like sports and cricket as well? S: Yeah. I: Now, going back to these actors, who is this guy? S: I've forgot his name. That's Ashwaria [image of Indian actress]. I: Now on this collage there is a lot about being Hindu and the fact that you are from India. Is that very important? Are you trying to express that you feel more closely connected to being Indian? S: Yeah. I: Could you explain a little? S: I just quite like watching films actually and I'm Hindu. I: Is your culture important to you? S: Yeah. I: It is. S: Yeah. I: Now on this side, how I think other people see me', you've not got any pictures. Is that because you don't think there is a difference or because you didn't have time? S: I didn't have time and I didn't kind of like know how other people see me. I: Do you think that if you had more time to work on this and you had time to think about it, do you think how you see yourself would be the same as how you think other people see you?

8 S: No, it would be, they wouldn't like kind of like see me as like playing games and into films. I: So what do you think they [other people] would see you as? S: I don't know. I: What do you think people think when they see you? How do you think they see you? S: Kind of like average not that much. I: So average. S: Yeah. I: Do you think you're average? S: No, not that much. I: No. S: No. I: Do you think you're more than average? S: Yeah. I: So do you think if I took away the Indian flag and the Hindu symbol that the whole collage would have a different meaning? (long pause) Were you born in this country? S: Yeah. I: But there is no British flag. So let's say, for example with the flags, why did you choose to use the Indian flag instead of the British one? Why did you choose to put Hindu? Fatimah Awan 2008. This text is part of the full PhD thesis 290.

9 Available at S: I would have put England as well but I didn't have time, but Indian because my parents come from that country. I: So your parents come from India but you were born here? S: Yeah. I: So how would you usually describe your ethnicity? S: Indian. I: You'd say Indian? S: Yeah. I: So you'd say Indian even though you were born here [England]? S: Yeah. I: Yeah? S: Yeah, well not exactly. I: Why not exactly? S: 'Cause like I was born from here but I'm still Indian. I: Why are you still Indian? S: Because my parents come from India and I often go there. I: So do you identify more with being Indian than with British or English? S: Yeah. I: Is it important for you to let people know that you are Indian? S: Not that much, but still kind of like would like people to know that I'm Indian so. I: OK brilliant. (J=Jason, aged 13, male; I=interviewer).

10 (//=overlap). I: So Jason, are these two separate collages or one? J: They're separate. I: Shall we start with how I see myself'? J: Yeah. I: Do you just want to go through the images and explain why you've used them, what you are trying to express? J: Well I've got the gun because I get really fiery and angry, I got like the calm [image of a person in silhouette] because I like to be calm you know like at home, I chose like the mini motor because I like being fast and rushing, I don't like animal cruelty that's why I got the zebra, there's some games I like [image of a wrestler] like wrestling and I like Triple X, a good film like stuff I like, I like alcohol. I: You like alcohol? J: Yeah. I: How old are you? J: Thirteen. I: But you like drinking? J: Yeah not like//. I: //why do you like drinking? J: 'Cause I just like, it's just nice to have different drinks and it's nice and I like the taste.